What abject, unchristian and judgemental hypocrisy. Have these ‘men of God’ ever heard “Judge not and you shall not be judged” or “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”. Perhaps, when their hour comes, they will experience the compassionate love and understanding of a benevolent God and not the historical and control-oriented ‘judgement’ of the ‘friars of old’.

Good 4 the bishop.

It’s up really to the hierarchy for they also have a reason “for what purpose” does the rites/prayer does for? when the person himself denies the existence of God?

It’s up really to the hierarchy for they also have a reason “for what purpose” does the rites/prayer does for? when the person himself denies the existence of God?

I am a Freemason and a Roman Catholic. I have no problem with any aspect of Masonry that might conflict with my religious beliefs and commitment. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. I wonder if he Bishop has?

Denying or accepting the existence of God is the choice of any person. Freemasonry DEMANDS that its members confess their belief in a Supreme Being.

Why is it good? I as well as many others can see that you are uninformed. What say you about a man of “God” who would refuse rites? Hypocrite.

I’m in the same boat as you (Just not RC, but Protestant) … I have faced the same “ridicule” from within my own church, where my parents are the ministers, which resulted in them asking me to leave… So as a non-participating christian, I’m a Freemason and a Christian, I believe in the Lord our God. An old adage is that the Church is the Shelter, NOT the faith. Our relationship with the lord is one-on-one, NOT one-on-one by proxy.

I am a Freemason and a Roman Catholic as well. I never had any issues until this past year when apparently someone noticed symbols on my truck. As the priest said “I thought you were a good Catholic until a few weeks ago”. I guess I was always good enough for my tithing to be cashed and for my help in building a fence around the playground but I am not deemed “good” by him. I still take communion and I go to confessions but Freemasonry is not a sin to me.

I am a Freemason…There has always been “bad blood” with the church against Freemasonry. And in the days of the Great Inqusitions, which did force Freemasonry into a secret society or else our past brethern would have been killed by the church. In my opinion Bro. Yu should have had a Masonic burial.

In the time of my death, I would prefer a Masonic burial. The church still holds its policy of “it’s my way or the highway” despite how good a parishioner a Freemason is to the church.

The chruch’s still hold that “us, them” attitute towards one another; Catholic, Jewish, etc.etc… as if they were gangs.

Whereas, Freemasonry does not turn away anyone, no matter what their religious denomination.

In its past history, the Vatican, were not “angels” either. Not by a longshot.

The Vatican has changed the mass so many times to the point where the Mass of Paul VI gutted the traditional mass.

Yes, the use of Latin is a “dead language” such that people don’t understand it. But, if one has the 1953 St. Joseph Daily Missal, one will notice that the Missal is in Latin text on one side of page and the English translation on the other side of the pages, easy to follow.

It appears that the Vatican somehow never noticed this.

I still take my 1953 St. Joseph Missal to church today and despite the revision of Traditional mass, and of the Mass of Paul VI. Yes, another revision after 40 years.

It all seems like theological hair-splitting. If there were prayers for his immortal soul, what does the body matter ? Other than treating the mortal remains with respect for the spirit they once contained, now departed to eternity, the presence or absence of the body should mean nothing – it is the immortal principle, the “soul” that matters, as any Christian of any denomination would surely agree.

I had thought that the Cardinal Archbishop of Manila had not forbidden Freemasonry in his arch-diocese, and that this interpretation of the relevant Canon had been agreed within his authority in previous correspondence with the Holy Office and the previous Pope. His position was, as I recall, that nothing in Freemasonry,as he knew of it in his arch-diocese, was hostile to the Church or its teachings.

 You are correct. Freemasonry in Canada states”Let a man’s religion be what it may, he is not excluded from our order provided he acknowleges the existence of a Supreme Being.”
Anything else on this subject is nobodies buisness!
Jim 

Other than God the creator, who is the supreme being?